GWR 4-wheel post-1890 "City" stock
by Russ Elliott
The
4-wheeled "City" stock used by the GWR in the London area is
an attractive subject for modellers. On this page, Russ Elliott
describes the 3-arc roof, 8'6" wide types built to Holden designs
after 1890.
Holden 4-wheel Brake 3rd to Diagram T59, made from a Shiresecenes/Ratio kit. See how it was built in the GWR Projects section. |
It
would appear that the vast majority of these coaches were built for the
London suburban services (Hammersmith & City; Main Line & City;
some Middle Circle workings), although I believe some sets saw service
in the Birmingham area, but perhaps only after being displaced from London
as new stock was built and lines electrified. The completion dates of
the lots indicate that there were 23 sets made, each of nominally 9 coaches.
It is thought that these vehicles departed from London in 1925 when they
were replaced by the suburban articulated trains.
Lot 699 was used for strengthening Middle Circle trains,
where trains were augmented to 10 or 11 vehicles. (It is difficult to
imagine that this augmentation would be done on a 'peak time' only basis,
as the coaches within a set were all close-coupled, and putting something
in the middle of a set would have been very awkward.)
 The characteristic half-circle door vents |
All
the 8'6" wide stock was designed by Holden, and the doors had semi-circular
tops, so that tunnel faces would not be hit in the case of any doors remaining
open. Unusually for Great Western coaches, the doors of these suburban
sets displayed the class of compartment in large Arabic figures: it is
not known exactly when this indication was introduced, but it was present
by mid-1905. These figures are to be seen in an enlargement of a picture
of an 'Atlantic' class loco 183 when new (in 1905) and before it was named
Red Gauntlet in 1906. The figures can also be seen (in the Wild Swan Publications
book 'Edwardian Enterprise') on a rake of Metro coaches at Acton in pristine
pre-1908 livery. (Jack Slinn's statement in 'Great Western Way (HMRS)
that the figures were introduced c.1913/4 is therefore incorrect.)
Before the introduction of the 3-arc roofed vehicles,
the Metro sets were formed by similar sets of 8'-wide, single-arced roof
vehicles. Many of these date back to 1880 or earlier. I do not have any
lot or diagram information before 1890. These older sets, when displaced
by the new 3-arc roof vehicles, may have been displaced to the Birmingham
district.
Holden 4-wheel All 3rd to Diagram S17, made from a Shiresecenes/Ratio kit. See how it was built in the GWR Projects section. |
The
diagram and lot information provided below was taken from Michael Harris' book
(Great Western Coaches 1890-1954, David & Charles): numbers in brackets
show the post-1907 renumbering prefix. Some brake vehicles were classified
by a different class for the same diagram number: this is thought to be
merely a difference in upholstery, the distance between partitions being
constant for a particular diagram. My thanks to John Lewis, for providing corrections and clarifications to the initial version of this page.
Russ Elliott
November 2000, revised January 2002
Lot and Diagram details, 8'6" wide stock Note: Numbers in brackets show the post-1907 renumbering prefix.
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Dia
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Date
|
Lot
|
Type
|
Qty
|
Numbers
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| T17 |
04/11/93 |
684 |
Brake third, 28' |
1 |
301 |
| S18 |
04/11/93 |
685 |
Third, 26' |
1 |
302 |
| R5 |
04/11/93 |
686 |
First, 26' |
3 |
(8)028-30 |
| S18 |
04/11/93 |
687 |
Second, 26' |
3 |
(50)41-3 |
| T17 |
04/11/93 |
688 |
Brake second, 28' |
1 |
(50)44 |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| S18 |
17/02/94 |
699* |
Second, 26' |
12 |
(50)45-53/75-7 |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| T59 |
30/12/93 |
704 |
Brake third, 31' |
6 |
2621-6 |
| S17 |
30/12/93 |
705 |
Third, 25' |
18 |
2711-28 |
| U6 |
30/12/93 |
706 |
Composite, 28' |
6 |
(7)811-6 |
| R3 |
30/12/93 |
707 |
First, 25' |
6 |
(8)118-23 |
| S17 |
30/12/93 |
708 |
Second, 25' |
10 |
(50)54-63 |
| T59 |
30/12/93 |
709 |
Brake second, 31' |
6 |
(50)66-71 |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| T59 |
03/02/94 |
711 |
Brake third, 31' |
1 |
2627 |
| S17 |
03/02/94 |
712 |
Third, 25' |
3 |
2729-31 |
| U6 |
03/02/94 |
713 |
Composite, 28' |
1 |
(7)817 |
| R3 |
03/02/94 |
714 |
First, 25' |
1 |
(8)117 |
| S17 |
03/02/94 |
715 |
Second, 25' |
2 |
(50)73/4 |
| T59 |
03/02/94 |
716 |
Brake second, 31' |
1 |
(50)72 |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| T8 |
03/02/94 |
717 |
Brake third, 26' |
1 |
2628 |
| S18 |
03/02/94 |
718 |
Third, 26' |
3 |
2732-4 |
| R5 |
03/02/94 |
719 |
First, 26' |
2 |
(8)115/6 |
| S18 |
03/02/94 |
720 |
Second, 26' |
2 |
(50)78/9 |
| T8 |
03/02/94 |
721 |
Brake second, 26' |
1 |
(50)80 |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| T17 |
31/08/95 |
753 |
Brake third, 28' |
1 |
322 |
| S18 |
31/08/95 |
754 |
Third, 26' |
1 |
323 |
| R5 |
31/08/95 |
755 |
First, 26' |
3 |
(80)31-3 |
| S18 |
31/08/95 |
756 |
Second, 26' |
3 |
(50)82-4 |
| T17 |
31/08/95 |
757 |
Brake second, 28' |
1 |
(50)81 |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| T59 |
22/02/96 |
777 |
Brake third, 31' |
2 |
2693/4 |
| S17 |
22/02/96 |
778 |
Third, 25' |
6 |
2777-82 |
| U6 |
22/02/96 |
779 |
Composite, 28' |
2 |
(7)878/9 |
| R3 |
22/02/96 |
780 |
First, 25' |
2 |
(800)9/10 |
| S17 |
22/02/96 |
781 |
Second, 25' |
4 |
(50)85-8 |
| T59 |
22/02/96 |
782 |
Brake second, 31' |
2 |
(50)89/90 |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| T59 |
10/10/96 |
805 |
Brake third, 31' |
2 |
2695/6 |
| S17 |
10/10/96 |
806 |
Third, 25' |
6 |
2783-8 |
| U6 |
10/10/96 |
807 |
Composite, 28' |
2 |
(7)882/3 |
| R3 |
10/10/96 |
808 |
First, 25' |
2 |
(80)50/1 |
| S17 |
10/10/96 |
809 |
Second, 25' |
4 |
(50)93-6 |
| T59 |
10/10/96 |
810 |
Brake second, 31' |
2 |
(50)91/2 |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| T59 |
12/06/97 |
816 |
Brake third, 31' |
2 |
2697/8 |
| S17 |
12/06/97 |
817 |
Third, 25' |
6 |
2789-94 |
| U6 |
12/06/97 |
818 |
Composite, 28' |
2 |
(7)884/5 |
| R3 |
12/06/97 |
819 |
First, 25' |
2 |
(80)52/3 |
| S17 |
12/06/97 |
820 |
Second, 25' |
4 |
(50)97-100 |
| T59 |
12/06/97 |
821 |
Brake second, 31' |
2 |
(50)101/2 |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| T59 |
15/01/98 |
858 |
Brake third, 31' |
3 |
313/2699-2700 |
| S17 |
15/01/98 |
859 |
Third, 25' |
9 |
303/4/11/2795-800 |
| U6 |
15/01/98 |
860 |
Composite, 28' |
3 |
(7)886-8 |
| R3 |
15/01/98 |
861 |
First, 25' |
3 |
(8)133/8/9 |
| S17 |
15/01/98 |
862 |
Second, 25' |
6 |
(5)106-11 |
| T59 |
15/01/98 |
863 |
Brake second, 31' |
3 |
(5)103-5 |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
| T59 |
26/11/98 |
897 |
Brake third, 31' |
2 |
334/7 |
| S17 |
26/11/98 |
898 |
Third, 25' |
6 |
340/1/3-5/7 |
| U6 |
26/11/98 |
899 |
Composite, 28' |
2 |
(7)891/2 |
| R3 |
26/11/98 |
900 |
First, 25' |
2 |
(8)142/3 |
| S17 |
26/11/98 |
901 |
Second, 25' |
4 |
(5)120-3 |
| T59 |
26/11/98 |
902 |
Brake second, 31' |
2 |
(5)118/9 |
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|
| T59 |
05/11/98 |
909** |
Brake third, 31' |
1 |
2695 |
* Lot 699 was for strengthening Middle Circle trains
** Replacement body for the identically numbered original vehicle condemned after an accident at Paddington in September 1898, but possibly using the
repaired underframe from the original venicle
Number built
| Diagram |
Number built
|
R3 |
20 |
R5 |
8 |
S17 |
98 |
S18 |
25 |
T8 |
2 |
T17 |
2 |
T49 |
5 |
T59 |
41* |
U6 |
20 |
| |
Total 216 |
* One was a replacement
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